Discussion On Irish Identity
10:50 pm in Northern Ireland: Politics by Levee
Paul at The Northern Irish Magyar is hosting a very interesting debate on the subject of Irishness.
Despite my RC upbringing, I wasn’t indoctrinated with attendant Republican or even Nationalist values. I always viewed Northern Ireland as a seperate entity, quite apart from either Ireland or Britain. Paul sums it up well in the comments:
political Republicanism has succeeded in greatly narrowing the definition of Irishness for their own political ends
I would argue that similarly Unionism/Loyalism have narrowed the definition of Britishness (in Northern Ireland at least) to representing a group of pompous, bigotted, intransigent stick-in-the-muds! I’ve never been comfortable with either label.
Another well-made point is that pre-partition, everyone on the island would have defined themselves as ‘Irish’, simply because it wasn’t an issue. A history book I’ve been reading recently has reminded me of the fact.
Interesting to see a number of mostly Unionist bloggers considering national identity and playing with the concept of being Irish while remaining British. I’ll leave you with an inspirational quote:
We appeal to you not to fall into the 1916 trap and risk a fragile new relationship for the whole island, by pressing for the fulfilment of an old political romance. We in our turn will come to acknowledge an over-arching Irishness we all can share. This is an age for forging new relationships, not for breaking up old ones. Irish unity of the traditional kind is no more for our time than it was in 1916.
Works for me!
I think I agree with the jist of Pauls musings. I’d have a lot less trouble with the Irish label, and I suspect many Unionists would, if Irish wasn’t constantly being defined, for as long as I can remember, as something opposed to British.